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Ulyanov · Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 12:03 pm Post subject: Abortion

I'm in the roughly 1% of the population that is actually undecided on abortion, everyone else seems to have strong, unswayable views on it. I used to be pro-choice until around 8th grade, but then I saw a pro-choice poster that said something like "77% of anti-abortion leaders are men, 100% of them will never become pregnant." Since 100% of pro-abortion leaders are at 0% risk of being aborted, it seemed somewhat hypocritical, and I ended up deciding that a lot of people on both sides don't really consider the other point of view. So now I'm in the middle, though I lean a little pro-life.
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Ekaf · Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 5:34 pm Post subject:

I'm pro-choice though not really strongly, I just don't think it's my place to decide.
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siouxper · Newbitik Joined: 29 Apr 2007 Posts: 8 Karma: 0

I dislike it. Go ahead and have one if you were assaulted or something bad like that, but if it is from a fault of your own, too bad so sad.

Maximus Vigilus · Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 3:53 am Post subject:

I am Pro-Choice however I strongly disagree with abortion.

I fully understand both sides of the arguement. Alot of people say well what if a rape victim is impregnated? Or some other excuse for getting an abortion, yet why should the unborn child be punished for something it is not responsible for.
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XRichX · Newbitik Joined: 02 May 2007 Posts: 15 Karma: 0

i disagree with abortion only on certain circumastances, i mean, rape... if the victim didnt want the child as she just couldnt bare to bring someone into the world that way then that should be ok, but just because they werent careful enough then thats their fault and if they really can't deal with a child then a family that really want a baby should be able to have a chance.

agentkgb · Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 7:51 pm Post subject:

Dark Blaze · Bi-Iridisan Joined: 06 May 2007 Posts: 70 Karma: 0

If you get raped, get an abortion. If you're not able to handle the responsibility of a child, get an abortion.

However, if you're having sex just to pass time, and are able to handle the responsibility, no abortion.
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Matt · Activan Joined: 28 Apr 2007 Posts: 31 Karma: 0

Against it unless the mother's life is in danger. If you can't raise a child, deal with it for nine months and then give it up for adoption.
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Houndstooth · Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 12:49 am Post subject:

I'm surprised to find so many pro-life leaners in one place. I got cussed out by a small girl the other day for having a "Choose life" tag on my car. That my parents put there without asking...

Anyway, I'm pro-life, anti-abortion, whatever. I don't believe pro-choice is an accurate term; it seems to me that somewhere along the line someone wanted to get rid of an unborn baby but couldn't call themselves murderers so they deemed it "choice". 99% of life is choice.

I'm sure everybody has heard this before, but why is it that when a woman kills the baby inside her it's call abortion, but when someone kills the pregnant woman, we call it double-murder?

Abortion is a sick practice regardless of circumstance. It may be acceptable given a mother's inability to survive birth or if the child is a product of incest-rape. However, the average pro-choicer is neither a victim of rape nor of incest.

Self-control is the only cure for this situation, and self-control is exactly what is preached against in our society. Party like a rockstar...
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Roy's Our Boy · Bi-Iridisan Joined: 07 May 2007 Posts: 69 Karma: 0

Does anyone know the percentage of raped women who become pregnant? Due to emotional and physical reasons, it is less likely for a woman to conceive after being forced. Also, many rapists either "pull out" and do not ejaculate inside the woman, or do not even have time to get that far.

Anyone hear of the Morning-After Pill?

Alright, so this poor victim of rape, does conceive, and did not have access to the Pill. Is killing the child truly an answer to her troubles? Why punish the wrong party?

There is also a wonderful concept for unwanted children; I believe it is called adoption. Sounds like abortion, I know, except no one dies.

Someone once told me of a child that had an 85% chance of dying upon birth and a 90% chance of killing the mother. If he survived the ordeal, he would almost certainly be born retarded and die within the next couple of years.

He is now 17 and is a perfectly normal student at my school.

Abstinence is the answer to all others.

Bob Frankenberry · Seriastan Joined: 07 May 2007 Posts: 105 Karma: 0

I believe there are certain instances where it is more appropriate than others.

I am pro-abortion, with terms.

LeilaniSurferGirl · Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 12:32 am Post subject:

Abortion is wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong.

You've probably heard this example before.

If Beethoven's mother could've aborted him, some say she had every right to. She had an STD, and her child was going to be deaf (and mute, too, right? If i'm wrong, plz tell me.) and deformities and all this other stuff. If she had aborted him, we wouldn't have a lot of great classical music that we have.

Then there's the guilt. There's a lady in my church. She had 3 abortions. The guilt almost caused her to commit suicide. SUICIDE. You kill your child, hey! let me kill myself while I'm at it! I mean, that's just not right. There's a reason there's guilt: YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO DO IT.

Now, the date rape/rape: Rape itself is wrong. I feel sorry for any females that have been raped and become pregnant. It's hard I know. God did not allow pain and sin. Sin was a choice, and with it came pain. Maybe the girl was innocent, but God may have huge plans for her life through her baby, or plans for her baby.

And then the deformities of the baby/death of baby/mother: I had a teacher whose mother was told that her babies would be deformed/die and she was told she would die. She had 4 healthy babies that are now in their mid 30s/40s and have healthy children of their own. So you never know. Plus, the world has this mentality that disabled kids are problems. There really blessings. Absolute blessings.

And then sometimes people choose to have a physical relationship. And then the girl conceives. That's not an excuse to have an abortion! And it's not an excuse for the father to leave her to raise the child herself.

But if I can't dissuade you from abortion, at least put the child up for adoption!!! There are thousands of couples that can not have a child, and would love to adopt one.

But abortion is wrong. I have a friend who could've been aborted, but her mother chose to have her, and eventually, her parents got married. Because of her, her father decided to come back to her mother. He decided to surrender to God. You never know what your 'unwanted' child may do. He/she may be a blessing in disguise.
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NightSnake · Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 2:45 am Post subject:

Roy's Our Boy · Bi-Iridisan Joined: 07 May 2007 Posts: 69 Karma: 0

Bob Frankenberry · Seriastan Joined: 07 May 2007 Posts: 105 Karma: 0

Roy's Our Boy · Bi-Iridisan Joined: 07 May 2007 Posts: 69 Karma: 0

That it never happened? That as they put the woman to sleep or whatever procedure is used, they are not actually carving up and ripping out the child? That as long as the woman has her eyes closed, any method to remove the child is better than letting it have the few moments on Earth he/she deserves?

Who among you would rather have your family and friends die alone, then to be at their side during their last day?

Bob Frankenberry · Seriastan Joined: 07 May 2007 Posts: 105 Karma: 0

Roy's Our Boy · Bi-Iridisan Joined: 07 May 2007 Posts: 69 Karma: 0

I know several mothers whose children have died.

Stillborn and several moments after birth.

Would abortion have really changed their life at all?

Bob Frankenberry · Seriastan Joined: 07 May 2007 Posts: 105 Karma: 0